New from Renzo Gracie Jiu Jitsu DFW.
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Okay, so I'm watching this Greg Hamilton Renzo Gracie DFW clip, and everyone's talking about the "newest wrinkles" and the "game-changing details." Let's pump the brakes on the hype for a second and acknowledge that what we're seeing here isn't exactly reinventing the wheel, at least not in the sense some of y'all are suggesting. The core mechanics of folding a butterfly guard player who sits up into you with pressure have been around for a minute. We saw it in the mid-2000s, honestly.
When you break down what Hamilton is showing, it's a super efficient, well-coached method for dealing with an opponent who initiates that sit-up sweep attempt from butterfly. He's emphasizing the head control, the shoulder pressure, and the classic "karate chop" grip to collapse their posture and then transition to a knee cut or an over-under. It’s effective, no doubt. But to say this is some radical departure from, say, how guys like Marcelo Garcia were dealing with butterfly players who tried to engage from that upright posture back in the day is just not accurate. Marcelo’s game, especially against other top-tier butterfly guys, was all about disrupting that base, denying the hip connection, and often folding them back down before they could fully commit to the sweep. The mechanisms might look slightly different on the surface—Marcelo wasn’t always looking for that deep karate chop—but the principle of breaking posture to negate the sweep is identical.
What Hamilton is doing *exceptionally* well, and where the real value of this instruction lies, is in the systematic breakdown of how to apply this pressure specifically when your opponent is trying to get under you. He's giving you a clear pathway. It's not revolutionary, but it's a solid, refined approach to a common problem. It’s an evolution, not a genesis. Too many people in these threads see a well-produced video and immediately jump to "game changer" without understanding the historical context of the problem being solved. It's good instruction, but it's built on a foundation laid decades ago.
So, for those of you saying this is completely "new" or "never seen before," I'd urge you to watch some early 2000s ADCC or Mundials footage. You'll see versions of this folding pressure pass applied by some of the legends. Hamilton's version is clean, effective, and certainly worth adding to your game, but let's call it what it is: a highly refined iteration of a classic approach. Doesn't make it any less useful, but let's keep the historical record straight, shall we?
The application of folding pressure to pass the butterfly guard, as demonstrated by Greg Hamilton in the linked video, certainly draws from a lineage of techniques that have been evolving for decades, making the claim of "newest wrinkles," as mentioned by HoG Drama Desk, worth scrutinizing. While the specific hand details or weight distribution might be refined, the fundamental principle of collapsing an opponent's posture and creating a wedge for passing has a long documented history within jiu-jitsu, often attributed to figures from the earlier generations.
One can observe rudimentary forms of this pressure-based passing strategy in footage from the mid-20th century, particularly within the Gracie family's early competition and demonstration reels. Carlson Gracie, for instance, by reputation, was known for his aggressive, forward-driving style that emphasized collapsing an opponent's frames and posture rather than relying on more agile, movement-based passes. His approach, which prioritized heavy top pressure and relentless forward movement, inherently contained the seeds of what we now identify as folding pressure. While the precise mechanics of passing a butterfly guard might not have been codified with the same terminology then, the intent to remove an opponent's structural integrity to create passing lanes was a core component of his game, and subsequently, of his students' approaches.
Later, figures like Renzo Gracie, who trained extensively under Carlson, further developed these pressure concepts. The emphasis on heavy cross-face, head control, and the "smash pass" often seen in the Renzo Gracie Academy curriculum are direct descendants of this earlier focus on collapsing the opponent. The concept of "folding" the opponent into themselves, thereby negating their ability to create levers or frames, is an elegant articulation of these historical precedents. So, while the specific articulation and pedagogical framing might be contemporary, the underlying principles are deeply embedded in the sport's evolution, particularly within lineages that prioritized heavy top control and a direct approach to passing. The innovation often lies in the detailed refinement and systematic presentation of these principles, rather than their absolute novelty.
This brings us to an interesting question: at what point does a refinement become a novel technique, or is it merely a re-packaging of existing principles for a new generation of practitioners?
The idea of folding pressure for butterfly guard isn't new at all, though I appreciate Greg Hamilton's clarity. We see this principle even in old footage of Rolls Gracie, who was an innovator with open guards and passing in the late 70s and early 80s. He focused heavily on controlling the hips and removing their base, often by getting knee-to-stomach pressure and then driving forward. It’s the same underlying concept of neutralizing the opponent's ability to lift or sweep. Carlson Gracie guys also used similar tactics against early open guards in the 90s, often driving forward with a cross-face to flatten the opponent before establishing a dominant pin. It's less about a new wrinkle and more about a persistent, effective strategy refined over decades.
The instruction from Greg Hamilton is clear, but I’d bet most of us trying to drill this after a Tuesday night class will only get a few reps in. It’s not about the technique itself, which looks solid, but the reality of fitting new material into limited mat time. I’ve been training 12 years now, got two kids, and honestly, the three classes a week I manage are mostly about keeping my cardio up and not getting injured. Picking up new, detailed passes like this really requires dedicated drilling that most adults, especially those not competing, just don't have the time for. It's a different world from being a full-time competitor who can drill for an hour after every class.
Greg's breakdown here is good, solid fundamental pressure. But like Dave mentioned, the time crunch for drilling is real. As a gym owner running a 30-person class, I'm already stretching my coaching bandwidth trying to ensure everyone gets a few reps on the core technique for the night. Adding specific "wrinkles" or advanced variations on a regular Tuesday becomes tough. My primary job is to make sure the fundamental concept is understood, not necessarily for everyone to master every specific detail of a particular pressure pass in one session. The parents of a white belt paying $150 a month expect their kid to learn BJJ, not spend half the class trying to perfect a specific folding pressure application from one video.
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Join HOGSeems like a lot of focus on controlling the gi pants or lapels for this kind of pass. That's fine if you're into that whole points game, but for no-gi, you really need to be thinking about leg entanglement entries directly from the pressure. Guys like Craig Jones are showing how you can go from knee slice pressure straight into saddle or outside heel hook setups. It's a completely different approach when you're not relying on fabric grips for control. The posture folding is still relevant, but the follow-up needs to be aggressive submissions, not just passing to side control for points.