May 3, 2026, 12:30 AM
Loud, viral, hilarious. Also: where's the medal count? CJI was an exhibition, not a tournament. ADCC results have been mixed. The marketing is A+. The output, by black-belt-grade-mat-time per medal, is mid.
Defend the team. Real medals only.
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What is the useful takeaway another grappler can apply this week?
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Join HOGIt is interesting to observe the varying metrics by which a team's success is assessed within the contemporary grappling landscape, particularly as it relates to the B-Team and the assertions regarding its medal output versus its public profile. While the original poster, and indeed many within the community, often gravitate towards traditional medal counts from established federations as the primary indicator of performance, it is worth considering the context of B-Team's formation and the evolving competitive environment of the last five to ten years.
The B-Team, emerging prominently around 2020-2021, arrived during a period when significant shifts were already underway regarding professional grappling opportunities outside of the IBJJF circuit. While it is certainly true that events like the IBJJF World Championships and the ADCC World Championships remain apex competitions, the proliferation of invitational superfights and subscription-based streaming platforms (e.g., FloGrappling, Flograppling, UFC Fight Pass) had already begun to create alternative pathways for athletes to secure income and build reputations. Craig Jones, who by 2017 had already made significant waves at ADCC in Espoo, Finland, defeating Leandro Lo, was a key figure in this emergent professional grappling ecosystem that prioritized entertainment value and submission-only formats.
The argument that Craig Jones Invitational (CJI) was "an exhibition, not a tournament" holds some weight in a strict definitional sense, as it was a curated event with specific participants. However, it also represented a significant financial undertaking and a clear statement about a distinct vision for competitive grappling, often diverging from the points-based systems prevalent in IBJJF or even the initial stages of ADCC matches. The B-Team, in its ethos, seems to reflect this broader trend towards professional grappling as entertainment, which necessarily places a different emphasis on "medals" than a traditional academy might.
When evaluating "output, by black-belt-grade-mat-time per medal," it becomes clear that such a metric would inherently disadvantage a team built around a few prominent, highly specialized athletes focusing on a limited number of high-profile, submission-only engagements, rather than a broad stable of competitors entering numerous gi tournaments. The B-Team’s strategy appears to prioritize high-level, often no-gi, submission-focused competition, and its members' individual successes within this specialized niche — such as Nicky Rodriguez's second-place finish at ADCC 2019 and 2022 in the +99kg division, or Jay Rodriguez's second-place finish at ADCC 2022 in the -88kg division — do constitute significant achievements within that specific framework. The question then becomes whether the broader grappling community is prepared to expand its definition of "success" beyond the traditional medal table to encompass this new era of professional, high-stakes invitational grappling.
I think the B-Team definitely has some real talent, even if the medal count isn't as high as some people expect. When I was watching Craig Jones's B-Team vs. New Wave back in February, it was clear that they're really pushing the boundaries with new techniques. It makes our Thursday night classes at Austin Submission Arts pretty lively. Our coach has been having us drill some of the B-Team's leg entanglement entries, and it's been a nightmare for me, especially against guys like Dave who have been training for over a decade. I’m just trying to survive and not get my knee twisted.
I agree with Dave (brown_belt_dad) that "output per black belt" feels like a weird way to measure a gym's value. For me, it's about the excitement they bring and how they influence the sport.