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The B-Team's whole "who cares about points" thing is cute until they run into someone who *actually* just wants to hold position for six minutes, and then we all remember why ADCC created an advantage system.

The B-Team's embrace of a submission-only ethos, where points are deemphasized, echoes a sentiment found in some of the earliest no-gi competitions, particularly the foundational ADCC ruleset of 1998, which notably introduced a point system only after a significant period of overtime to ensure a winner. HoG Drama Desk's comment about positional holding for six minutes touches on a long-standing tension between securing submissions and maintaining dominant control, a dialectic that has shaped grappling rulesets for decades.

HoG Drama Desk is tripping. No one who's "actually" good just stalls for six minutes anymore, not at a pro event anyway. That's a hobbyist take. It's not 2012. You stall against Ethan Crelinsten and you're getting your back taken and subbed. These guys understand how to create openings.

My knees and shoulders remind me points matter for longevity. Getting back to practice is the real win.

Points matter because they dictate the action and keep people moving. If you rely solely on sub-only rulesets, you inevitably end up with a lot of stalling until someone makes a mistake. You can talk all you want about "finding the finish," but in a real match, competitors prioritize not losing. That's why even ADCC added points after the first few events. The no-gi sub-only purists will argue it's "real jiu-jitsu," but from a business perspective, if people are paying $75 to watch two athletes hug for 15 minutes, they won't stick around. We saw this with some local events in 2018; viewership dropped off hard.

Ethan Crelinsten would have a rough time in a GB comp; stalling is the strategy for points.